Chlor-Mag

[Helena Handbasket]

A friend of mine turned me on to MgCl, aka magnesium chloride, or Chlor-Mag.

One problem with magnesium compounds is that they are absorbed very slowly into the system. But Chlor-Mag is quickly absorbed.

I have a jar of Chlor-Mag powder. I was advised to just mix it with water and drink it, but it tastes terrible, so I put it into capsules. However it is extremely hygroscopic -- it absorbs water from the atmosphere until it turns into green liquid mush. So I open the jar, dry the stuff out in the oven, load up some capsules quickly, dry them both out in the oven again, then put the capsules into an air-tight plastic jar with a silica gel packet.

So far, it made some stiff muscles (particularly in my neck) go away. There will probably be more visible benefits later on.

Helena

 

[strativarius]

A friend of mine turned me on to MgCl, aka magnesium chloride, or Chlor-Mag.

One problem with magnesium compounds is that they are absorbed very slowly into the system. But Chlor-Mag is quickly absorbed.

I have a jar of Chlor-Mag powder. I was advised to just mix it with water and drink it, but it tastes terrible, so I put it into capsules. However it is extremely hygroscopic -- it absorbs water from the atmosphere until it turns into green liquid mush. So I open the jar, dry the stuff out in the oven, load up some capsules quickly, dry them both out in the oven again, then put the capsules into an air-tight plastic jar with a silica gel packet.

So far, it made some stiff muscles (particularly in my neck) go away. There will probably be more visible benefits later on.

Helena

Instead of going through the oven operation, couldn't you try putting the capsules in the freezer? Not a lot of water in there. Just a thought.

 

[JustSheila]

It would be nice to see Udarnik comment on this thread.

What you said about Magnesium acting more effectively as a compound with certain substances is probably correct. Long before Cal-mag was sold in pharmacies, other Calcium compounds were sold, like calcium lactate. A chemist/pharmacist once explained to me why this is so.

Some substances or nutrients can be damaged or destroyed at high or low temperatures, though, others bond as compounds. IDK much about Magnesium. Are there stinky fumes when you put it in the oven? I'd wonder if the chloride might become gaseous at high temperatures and at what temperature. You might be taking some chloride out by putting it into the air as vapor.

Some substances are better swallowed, some aren't supposed to be inhaled. Penicillin is from a natural mold that grows on white bread. It can be directly ingested (yuck!!) but there are warnings not to breathe in the mold spores.

I'm glad to hear the magnesium works well for you.

 

[freethinker]

You can avoid all that unnecessary preparation and just buy Epsom Salts. Pour a bath and soak in it. Magnesium is readily and easily absorbed through the skin.

It has been done this way for many years.

You can buy it at nearly any pharmacy and it is relatively cheap.

Ingestion is the poorest way to get magnesium.

What is Epsom salt?

Epsom salt, named for a bitter saline spring at Epsom in Surrey, England, is not actually salt but a naturally occurring pure mineral compound of magnesium and sulfate. Long known as a natural remedy for a number of ailments, Epsom salt has numerous health benefits as well as many beauty, household and gardening-related uses.
Studies have shown that magnesium and sulfate are both readily absorbed through the skin, making Epsom salt baths an easy and ideal way to enjoy the amazing health benefits (*1). Magnesium plays a number of roles in the body including regulating the activity of over 325 enzymes, reducing inflammation, helping muscle and nerve function and helping to prevent artery hardening. Sulfates help improve the absorption of nutrients, flush toxins and help ease migraine headaches.

http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/epsom-uses-benefits.asp

A friend of mine turned me on to MgCl, aka magnesium chloride, or Chlor-Mag.

One problem with magnesium compounds is that they are absorbed very slowly into the system. But Chlor-Mag is quickly absorbed.

I have a jar of Chlor-Mag powder. I was advised to just mix it with water and drink it, but it tastes terrible, so I put it into capsules. However it is extremely hygroscopic -- it absorbs water from the atmosphere until it turns into green liquid mush. So I open the jar, dry the stuff out in the oven, load up some capsules quickly, dry them both out in the oven again, then put the capsules into an air-tight plastic jar with a silica gel packet.

So far, it made some stiff muscles (particularly in my neck) go away. There will probably be more visible benefits later on.

Helena

 

[Teanntás]

You can avoid all that unnecessary preparation and just buy Epsom Sats. Pour a bath and soak in it. Magnesium is readily and easily absorbed through the skin.

It has been done this way for many years.

You can buy it at nearly any pharmacy and it is relatively cheap.

Ingestion is the poorest way to get magnesium.



http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/epsom-uses-benefits.asp

Thanks for that - I haven't had an epsom salts bath in ages.

"He also follows his own advice, indulging in a nightly UltraBath of very hot water with a mixture of Epsom salts, baking soda, and lavender oil. This is key component of his program. Dr. Hyman says this bath relaxes the nervous system; lowers cortisol and inflammation, promotes weight loss, detoxification, and healing; enhances sleep; increases circulation and heart rate; and lowers blood pressure and blood sugar levels."

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/8/profile/page-01

 

[Hypatia]

I haven't tried that. But unfiltered organic apple cider vinegar seems to be helpful for me.

 

[strativarius]

I haven't tried that. But unfiltered organic apple cider vinegar seems to be helpful for me.

Sounds cool, but do you drink it or bathe in it? Or both? :wink2:

 

[Jump]

You can avoid all that unnecessary preparation and just buy Epsom Salts. Pour a bath and soak in it. Magnesium is readily and easily absorbed through the skin.

It has been done this way for many years.

You can buy it at nearly any pharmacy and it is relatively cheap.

Ingestion is the poorest way to get magnesium.



http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/epsom-uses-benefits.asp

Those 'floatations tanks' at some health spas use Epsom salts / magnesium sulfate / MgSO4 . They give you a nice topup of magnesium.

Sea salt is 13% magnesium if you have a beach nearby ( and decent weather of course)

I dissolve the magnesium chloride in water and spray it on my body after showering. The magnesium absorbs through the skin and it's easy. Look up transdermal magnesium.

 

[AngeloV]

Perhaps you are not trying to change the ph of your body but MgCl has a ph of 6 which is acidic.

Anyway, it's a good thing to keep this in mind:

 

[Jump]

Perhaps you are not trying to change the ph of your body but MgCl has a ph of 6 which is acidic.

Anyway, it's a good thing to keep this in mind:

Your stomach has a pH of about 1.5 so, as usual, it all depends.

Take home message: include lots of leafy green veg for pH, vitamins and magnesium

 

[Udarnik]

I take Chlor-Mag on occasion. As with all supplements, be careful of over-dosing. Mg in high amounts is not good for you.

It is often prescribed with tamoxifen, especially in prophylaxis, because tamoxifen interferes with the metabolic flux of Mg. It is MUCH better than epsom salts as a supplement because the sulfate is poorly bioavailable, but the chloride is nicely absorbed. Mg is indeed required for muscle action, and I find it does relieve extremely sore / tense muscles well. My wife was taking tamoxifen and used it because of the intense muscle cramps the drug gave her. However, I don't take it for moderate musculo-skeletal pain because I don't want to OD.

I don't think it's in any way bad for you in moderation. I do think it has some clinical benefit, not all of which has been well characterized. Just resist the typical "if a little is good, more is better" impulse most Americans and pretty much all recovering Co$ have. The difference between a medicine and a poison is the dose.

The only supplement I take regularly, in moderation, is Vitamin D.

 

[Gib]

I take Chlor-Mag on occasion. As with all supplements, be careful of over-dosing. Mg in high amounts is not good for you.

It is often prescribed with tamoxifen, especially in prophylaxis, because tamoxifen interferes with the metabolic flux of Mg. It is MUCH better than epsom salts as a supplement because the sulfate is poorly bioavailable, but the chloride is nicely absorbed. Mg is indeed required for muscle action, and I find it does relieve extremely sore / tense muscles well. My wife was taking tamoxifen and used it because of the intense muscle cramps the drug gave her. However, I don't take it for moderate musculo-skeletal pain because I don't want to OD.

I don't think it's in any way bad for you in moderation. I do think it has some clinical benefit, not all of which has been well characterized. Just resist the typical "if a little is good, more is better" impulse most Americans and pretty much all recovering Co$ have. The difference between a medicine and a poison is the dose.

The only supplement I take regularly, in moderation, is Vitamin D.

I'd agree.

on a similar note, too much of scientology will make one bat shit crazy.

 

[Hypatia]

Sounds cool, but do you drink it or bathe in it? Or both? :wink2:

It can be put in salads and other things, but what I do is mix a little with honey and water and drink it. Sometmes I mix it in grapefruit juice because then it doesn't screw up the taste.

 

[Jump]

It can be put in salads and other things, but what I do is mix a little with honey and water and drink it. Sometmes I mix it in grapefruit juice because then it doesn't screw up the taste.

That's for sure - you can't make grapefruit juice any worse

I put it in my chopped celery+capsicum+cucumber salad that I try to have daily.

 

[phenomanon]

Thanks for that - I haven't had an epsom salts bath in ages.

"He also follows his own advice, indulging in a nightly UltraBath of very hot water with a mixture of Epsom salts, baking soda, and lavender oil. This is key component of his program. Dr. Hyman says this bath relaxes the nervous system; lowers cortisol and inflammation, promotes weight loss, detoxification, and healing; enhances sleep; increases circulation and heart rate; and lowers blood pressure and blood sugar levels."

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/8/profile/page-01

Dr Teal makes a Lavender/Chamomile Epsom Salt bath. It's in a purple bag at the drugstore. I am never without it.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Those 'floatations tanks' at some health spas use Epsom salts / magnesium sulfate / MgSO4 . They give you a nice topup of magnesium.

Sea salt is 13% magnesium if you have a beach nearby ( and decent weather of course)

I dissolve the magnesium chloride in water and spray it on my body after showering. The magnesium absorbs through the skin and it's easy. Look up transdermal magnesium.

Jump ... I've just ordered 5kg of Epsom salts (and a large truckload of scented candles for the bath-side, lol) ... I know I need it but I'd not known magnesium absorbed well through the skin till I read Freethinkers post (I'll never post again now, I expect I'll be in the bathtub for the rest of my life).

I looked up transdermal magnesium (it looks interesting).

Quick question ... Where do you buy your magnesium chloride from and what approx quantity should be mixed in water for the spray?

I'm excited by all this as apparently it increases the production of serotonin too (and we can all use a bit more of that).

Thanks to all for the info (your Dr Teal potion sounds wonderful Phenom).

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Perhaps you are not trying to change the ph of your body but MgCl has a ph of 6 which is acidic.

Anyway, it's a good thing to keep this in mind:

I take exception to the caption, "stop trying to ... alkalinize your body". According to the urine test strips I use, my body is very acidic to begin with, fighting to keep pH up. When I attempt to alkalinize, I am merely helping, and probably making myself healthier at the same time.

Helena

 

[Jump]

I take exception to the caption, "stop trying to ... alkalinize your body". According to the urine test strips I use, my body is very acidic to begin with, fighting to keep pH up. When I attempt to alkalinize, I am merely helping, and probably making myself healthier at the same time.

Helena

The body does have natural ways to eliminate excess acid, one is through breathing, another is through dissolution of metal ions from bone. Reducing excess sugary and grain-based food is a way to not accumulate so much acid.

 

[Jump]

Jump ... I've just ordered 5kg of Epsom salts (and a large truckload of scented candles for the bath-side, lol) ... I know I need it but I'd not known magnesium absorbed well through the skin till I read Freethinkers post (I'll never post again now, I expect I'll be in the bathtub for the rest of my life).

I looked up transdermal magnesium (it looks interesting).

Quick question ... Where do you buy your magnesium chloride from and what approx quantity should be mixed in water for the spray?

I'm excited by all this as apparently it increases the production of serotonin too (and we can all use a bit more of that).

Thanks to all for the info (your Dr Teal potion sounds wonderful Phenom).

I used the 'ancient minerals' magnesium chloride flakes. Mix about half a cup of the flakes to 1 cup of water. You might have to heat or boil the water to get it all dissolved. Let it cool, then put in a spray bottle.

Interestingly, antiperspirants are aluminium chloride, the magnesium chloride is healthier but not as effective with perspiration. You might find it stings a bit, but that goes away after a few uses.. or dilute it more.

 

[Helena Handbasket]

The body does have natural ways to eliminate excess acid, one is through breathing, another is through dissolution of metal ions from bone. Reducing excess sugary and grain-based food is a way to not accumulate so much acid.

That's right, but it's far easier to take antacids than it is to change my diet.

Helena