DagwoodGum
Squirreling Dervish
Yes, the FIRE/EXIT sign that every building is required to have that's easily seen in order to meet city, state and Federal fire/building codes. 
Is there a piece of scientology that you hold onto as true - or still like ?
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HelluvaHoax!
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Almost each time I read your pieces of satyre I too think you should publish - so we can read you in our bed at night...when its cary in the dark
Since there is so much people going out on a daily basis, and certainly in expansion,
I'd say the wog exes market is a nice expannnnnnnnnnnnnnding niche to exploit - expecially
for publishing a funny Scn book, providing lot of endorphines deconstruction and decompression
If published with a glossary, that would be fun for pure uncontaminated wogs too...
One of my dear friend was reading your posts, while having her stage 4 cancer, and she was having a good laugh.
Those are the last moments I've seen her having a good laughter.
Thanks Hoaxy for all those epic moments!
Thank you so so much.
Love to you...and your friend wherever she is.
Operating DB
Truman Show Dropout
Even the shouting at an ashtray tech?
DagwoodGum
Squirreling Dervish
And to the best of my knowledge no one has ever budged that ashtray by use of "OT intention" irregardless of the millions of hours spent on trying to by Scientologists of all "levels" of spiritual attainment.
What's that tell you?
It's a significant stat I would say...
phenomanon
Canyon
Almost each time I read your pieces of satyre I too think you should publish - so we can read you in our bed at night...when its cary in the dark
Since there is so much people going out on a daily basis, and certainly in expansion,
I'd say the wog exes market is a nice expannnnnnnnnnnnnnding niche to exploit - expecially
for publishing a funny Scn book, providing lot of endorphines deconstruction and decompression
If published with a glossary, that would be fun for pure uncontaminated wogs too...
One of my dear friend was reading your posts, while having her stage 4 cancer, and she was having a good laugh.
Those are the last moments I've seen her having a good laughter.
Thanks Hoaxy for all those epic moments!
Great idea.
It should be a "confidential" book. Available only to ppl on this Planet in this minute smidgin of time.
Sorry about your friend, Lotus.
Gizmo
Rabble Rouser
Well, here is what Ill tell you - a true story
I saw an ash tray moved in this exercise ! Yes, with my own eyes, I saw it happen !
Ah, you want details ? Yeah. Yeah. I know. Well, OK.
In the *late -ish 70's when CC was on La Brea in Hollywood. The parking lot was behind the building & that is where we did such antics as the yelling at an ash tray.
Also where the yelling TR 1 was done from 50 feet, or so. ( at the same time of course ! )
Anyway, this person was doing the yelling at an ash tray drill & had been it at while with great intensity.
That is when I SAW the ASH TRAY RISE RIGHT UP OFF THAT CHAIR !
Oh YES it did ! That ash tray rose ( like Jesus ! ) almost straight right straight up to about chest height !
Then it just , with only the slightest of hesitations, changed directions & SAILED right over to the back parking lot wall where the impact caused it be shattered.
But, I do not know what happened to him as a result of picking up that ash tray ( org property ) & destroying it by throwing it against that wall.
But, I saw that ash tray fly ! Yes, I DID ! It was COOL !
Maybe it wasn't all that OT, but, it WAS funny to watch.
* Somebody, hopefully, will post the dates of the short time span that CC was on La Brea after 8th St in downtown & before the Manor happened.
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DagwoodGum
Squirreling Dervish
Well, here is what Ill tell you - a true story
I saw an ash tray moved in this exercise ! Yes, with my own eyes, I saw it happen !
Ah, you want details ? Yeah. Yeah. I know. Well, OK.
In the *late -ish 70's when CC was on La Brea in Hollywood. The parking lot was behind the building & thjat is where we did such antics as the yelling at an ash tray.
Also where the yelling TR 1 was done from 50 feet, or so. ( at the same time of course ! )
Anyway, this person was doing the yelling at an ash tray drill & had been it at while with great intensity.
That is when I SAW the ASH TRAY RISE RIGHT UP OFF THAT CHAIR !
Oh YES it did ! That ash tray rose ( like Jesus ! ) almost straight right straight up to about chest height !
Then it just , with only the slightest of hesitations, changed directions & SAILED right over to the back parking lot wall where the impact caused it be shattered.
But, I do not know what happened to him as a result of picking up that ash tray ( org property ) & destroying it by throwing it against that wall.
But, I saw that ash tray fly ! Yes, I DID ! It was COOL !
Maybe it wasn't all that OT, but, it WAS funny to watch.
* Somebody, hopefully, will post the dates of the short time span that CC was on La Brea after 8th St in downtown & before the Manor happened.
I told my room mate back in the 70's that I could use "intention" to change the channels on an old black and white TV I'd picked up used at a TV shop.
Much to his amazement I'd change the channels one by one with my "OT" intention.
What he didn't know, nor did I when I bought it, was that it had originally come equipped with one of the early remotes that wasn't with the TV when I bought it.
What I'd found is that the slightest jingle of my car keys would produce the correct pitch and the channels would change.
I told him the truth within a few minutes of his being entirely blown away because I couldn't keep a straight face.
Now you don't suppose there was a thin monofiliment fishing line attached to the ashtray do you?
Just saying...
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Gizmo
Rabble Rouser
No fishing line was used !
But, he did pick up that ash tray & with great rage threw it as hard as he could against the wall.
Now THAT is as OT as OT can be !
ILove2Lurk
Lisbeth Salander
Yeah, a tiny universe of interested readers makes these projects non-starters most of the time.
And HH has written some unbelievably astute and penetrating posts about myriad topics: Scientology, Hubbard, religion, philosophy, economics, history, elections, politics, race relations, . . . well, the list goes on and on. There is no end.
A few of his posts took my breath away, they were so illuminating and well spoken. And I was in the communications field most of my life, so I've read a whole heck of a lot of writers over the years.
HH has writ his book and it's here already. It's here! I've been trying to find a way (google) to download all of a members posts, but haven't found any way to do it yet. I have done it manually for a couple three posters in the past, but it took a lot of time.
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That said, we need to begin thinking about a project: Preservation of Tech: The Original HelluvaHoax Writings for all of the nearly 20,000 posts. A little fund raising, some intelligent planning, and our repository of humor and wisdom would be protected for eternity.
Since HH has a certain fondness for Chicago (and especially the south side <wink, wink>), I've already located a property we can use. And it'll be free. Found a used safe on ebay. Good to go!
Three easy steps:
HelluvaHoax!
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Yeah, a tiny universe of interested readers makes these projects non-starters most of the time.
And HH has written some unbelievably astute and penetrating posts about myriad topics: Scientology, Hubbard, religion, philosophy, economics, history, elections, politics, race relations, . . . well, the list goes on and on. There is no end.
A few of his posts took my breath away, they were so illuminating and well spoken. And I was in the communications field most of my life, so I've read a whole heck of a lot of writers over the years.
HH has writ his book and it's here already. It's here! I've been trying to find a way (google) to download all of a members posts, but haven't found any way to do it yet. I have done it manually for a couple three posters in the past, but it took a lot of time.
That said, we need to begin thinking about a project: Preservation of Tech: The Original HelluvaHoax Writings for all of the nearly 20,000 posts. A little fund raising, some intelligent planning, and our repository of humor and wisdom would be protected for eternity.
Since HH has a certain fondness for Chicago (and especially the south side <wink, wink>), I've already located a property we can use. And it'll be free. Found a used safe on ebay. Good to go!
Three easy steps:
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Or, better yet, start a new religion taking off from where Elcon left off, like the little bird flying upward from the back of an exhausted eagle.
You'd be surprised how many baby ducklings you'd find waddling behind your behind.
You'd have the advantages of never having announced you're doing it to become a millionaire and have shown no inclination to blow your own horn just for the pleasure of it, with nuthin but hot air as did Hubbard.
F.Bullbait
Oh, a wise guy,eh?
OT III Revised
Balthasar
Patron Meritorious
Hubbard had an extraordinary ability to analyze things, take it into tiny pieces and develop solutions. Of course, there is a lot of "solutions" which were born out of his abberated personality and personal interests. For example the real reason why people would blow, falsely stating that would be because of M/WH when he knew that's caused by ARCX. Also 2D policies are heavily distorted stuff. The list is long.
However, all these policies, the good ones and manipulating stuff were the result of Hubbard tinkering around how to further his goals. I loved to read the early HCOPLs. I had a very early old green volumes set, must have been one of the first editions. They were still cloth bound and rather thin and completely out of date. I used to read in them like others would read a novel. Each of these old HCOPLs were like a journey into the past, examining situations with written solutions.
So I studied the writer, his thinking and intentions behind. I wasn't interested in "following policy" in that instant. After all, these HCOPLs were out of date in majority. Later came the green Volumes with all these yellow BPLs in them. I enjoyed reading them too. The BPLs written by others than LRH tried to emulate his style I found but they were slightly different in style. The analysing factor was missing, this to the point sumarizing concluding solutions. They were less sharp.
Later on, these mixed yellow on green and white on green policies were rewritten and all was attributed to Hubbard. Yet I still could discern Hubbards writing from added stuff not written by him and of course, recognise what is the real intent behind each paper issued. It was like a curse. Seeing things others wouldn't see. Well, not knowing is sometimes much more comfortable.
There may only be two ways to think good of Hubbard. At least for Exes. The one is to be sufficiently brainwashed (CoS) into having no own judgement. The other is let go of ones own individual perspective. What I mean by that is to be able to assume LRHs perspective (as well as any other perspectives). I think that even if you agree on nothing what I say, you may perhaps agree that when one manages to assume Hubbards perspective one can then assume anybodys.
So what did I get out of Hubbard, what did I learn from him? It was that if I look at situations exactly, take them apart and analyse them, I can develop solutions. There is always a solution to any given problem and one can work it out.
That's what the guy did. He had many problems that's for sure. That his solutions became a problem to others, well fair enough, that is sufficiently documented.
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Gib
Crusader
You're kidding, joking, right?
There are no clears, no OT's, no ST Hill Size Orgs.
What solutions are you talking about?
ThetanExterior
Gold Meritorious Patron
I knew someone who was an Exec at Saint Hill in the old days. When the "new" green volumes were issued she was extremely pleased because she had never felt comfortable with the "old" volumes because she had written many of the HCOPLs that were signed "L. Ron Hubbard".
If I was still in contact with her I'd let her know you enjoyed them.
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F.Bullbait
Oh, a wise guy,eh?
Objectives @ 200 + hours
DagwoodGum
Squirreling Dervish
Objectives @ 200 + hours
Gosh that would make a great avatar!
I won;t because people find the .gif's a bit irritating if they are a constant in all your posts!
Hypatia
Pagan
I'm sure other groups and belief systems have ideas about intention.
Thanks, though, for reminding me of that drill. I used to giggle furiously when doing it; an all too rare moment of fun in that awful place.
JustSheila
Crusader
Balthazar, I'm practicing tolerance and less bitchiness about comments others may write with which I might disagree. Since I've never had a bad quarrel with you but I found parts of your post disagreeable, I thought this would be a good place to practice these skills. Okay with you?
Exscn Members/Mods/Admin: Please grade me on my response to Balthazar. You too, Balthazar and you too, please, ITYIWT, FTS, Helena, HH and anyone else who wishes to jump in! (Might as well have some fun with this)
Post Response Areas to Grade (A,B,C,D,F):
__________ Did the Response Demonstrate Understanding of the Post Addressed?
__________ Was the Response to Balthazar Respectful and Polite?
__________ Were there any Adhoms or other personal references in the Response?
__________ Did the Response Stay on Subject?
__________ Was the Response Objective (not addressing emotion or becoming emotional or agitated)?
__________ Did the Response come on too strong or too weak?
__________ Were the Points of Response Clear, Concise and Non-Repetitive?
__________ Did the Response Present a Compelling, Strong Argument supported by Facts or Logic?
Additional Comments:
RESPONSE TO BALTHAZAR:
I disagree that it was Hubbard who had these skills or abilities. We've met a slew of exes who were ordered by Hubbard to find solutions to various problems or develop them, from Volney Mathison's developing the e-meter to David Mayo developing NOTS. There were Messengers who would scour through articles to find the latest trends or developments of others and give these to Hubbard to rephrase/rewrite under his own name, and early execs over different areas who wrote detailed instructions for their own areas. Hubbard demanded every scientologist give their very best and sometimes he wrote well enough that his words (or borrowed words) could inspire. His real skill set was in the use of language to get others to do what he wanted. Rhetoric, as Gib says.
Your conclusion, last two lines, is a big jump in assumption of what others could or could not see. Can we take that back a few steps?
You recognized Hubbard's writing style, or what seemed to be his writing style (it had his name on it), as well as some others' styles. Not everyone did. If you recognized writing styles, though, it's only fair to assume that there were others who did as well. Does that sound plausible to you?
I also noticed different writing styles in both the policies signed by Hubbard and those that weren't and thought it was special at first. I also made the assumption that you did that Hubbard's style was actually written by Hubbard.
Then I found out about the various projects at Bridge Publications to standardize all the policies and writings to one style, the 'Hubbard Standard' style. In '77, when I saw early FO's with Hubbard's name on them at Pubs, they weren't exactly in that style, but from the content, similarity and dates, I was sure they were Hubbard's own. Like other writers, not only had Hubbard's writing style developed and improved over the years (mostly becoming more concise), but there were early FO's obviously not written in his style that could only be attributed to Hubbard. In other words, Hubbard's direct orders as dictated to Messengers and written up by someone else who wasn't skilled at writing 'Hubbard style.' When I later saw these same FO's rewritten and revised in the now standardized style (many without even an 'R' after them), it was quite an eye opener. So was seeing the earlier BPLs written by others later rewritten in his style.
Those rewrites were done by others. It's not that hard to imitate a style, as I'm sure you know. Some were better at it than others.
L Ron's actual writing style degenerated in later years, though, as you can see with Battlefield Earth.
When it comes to scientology, writing style is no indication of the actual author(s).
But I do agree with you that some of the admin tek wasn't too bad for that time period. Some people did a marvelous job, and it's awesome to look at things critically and analytically and take them apart, no matter where or how you picked that up.
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