mildredpierce
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Hello. How do I find ANY member of Serge's family who might care about his well being. We have a team assembled in Santa Monica and Hollywood to help him before he deteriorates much further
Ivan Obolensky
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Hello. How do I find ANY member of Serge's family who might care about his well being. We have a team assembled in Santa Monica and Hollywood to help him before he deteriorates much further
Idle Morgue
Gold Meritorious Patron
This is Scientology: The FBO and RTC are in charge of IAS and CIU as well as OSA and INT. The HGC and the SUP have to answer to the BFF at INT's CO and ASS. The BFF of COB is TC and DM is the CO of TC and KH. PC's are controlled by the HGC in the HGB and the BDD oversees the Div 6 of the Div 1 on the 1st tear of the pyramid. If all else fails, COB does over see the control the CO of ASSHOLE AND AHOLE and the FSO is the HGB of the entire ORG BOARD but really WGAFBIDNW (who gives a fuck because it does not work). Oh, don't forget - SS - Scientology sucks you DB's who are PTS to the SP's!
"AOLA makes up the bulk of Sea Org production stats especially GI. It is just over the road from the FOLO and very close to the HGB. Bridge is just there, as is ASI. Anyone coming to LA from Int arrives just around the corner from the org. So there is a constant stream of management people poking their heads in, walking around, annoying people and wanting to talk to the CO".
A whole lot of spin going on for absolutely nothing but DESTRUCTION.
Can I get an amen to that brothers and sistas?
"AOLA makes up the bulk of Sea Org production stats especially GI. It is just over the road from the FOLO and very close to the HGB. Bridge is just there, as is ASI. Anyone coming to LA from Int arrives just around the corner from the org. So there is a constant stream of management people poking their heads in, walking around, annoying people and wanting to talk to the CO".
A whole lot of spin going on for absolutely nothing but DESTRUCTION.
Can I get an amen to that brothers and sistas?
Purple Rain
Crusader
I don't I'm afraid. Maybe hire a PI to track some of them down? But I just wanted to respond to tell you I think you're doing a wonderful thing and I wish you every success.
Edit: Or maybe someone like Anonymary could help? She seems to be excellent at finding information like that.
AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Hi mildredpierce,
Thank you for writing and caring about Serge... I would have PM'd you this but you have to have so many posts to be able to use that function here.
The first post in this thread ( copied below) has the email address of his father Ivan... although I don't know if he is willing to be contacted about his son. His father is a scientologist. They are very anti-mental health industry/ anti-psych.
Huge for me.
Ivan has been located.
I've been in communication with him on Facebook.
He told me this tonight.
Please let those who want to contact me know that I welcome their communication and if per chance they have upset with me I welcome that, too. I was not always Mr Happy Face. For now I prefer contact via my email: [email protected] or on FaceBook.
I am so so so glad he surfaced. Very emotional for me. He was a very big influence on my life.
I could not locate him on Facebook but here are some contact numbers I found online for him and for Ivan S and Mary E Obolensky of NYC, who I believe to be Serge's grandparents:
You can also try these addresses and phone numbers for the dad, Ivan Obolensky aka Ivan S Obolensky IV, aka Ivan Serge Obolensky, although they may not be current. This is definitely Serge's father:
Ivan Serge Obolensky Age: 61
(831) 622-4706
24501 Via Mar Monte #44
Carmel, CA 93923
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/ivan-obolensky/447818834
Ivan S Obolensky Age: 61
(831) 622-4706
123 PO Box
Monterey, CA 93942
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/ivan-obolensky/1222556337
Below are who I believe to be Serge's grandfather and grandmother. They appear to still be alive and one of the phone numbers may be currently valid.
Ivan Obolensky Age: 88
(212) 861-4240 or (917) 855-6299
425 79th St #7E
New York, NY 10075
Mary E Obolebnsky Age: 79
Also known as: Mary E Obolensky
(212) 861-4240 or (917) 855-6299
425 79th St #7E
New York, NY 10075
Ivan Obolensky, Sr is the treasurer of the American Russian Heritage Association in NYC
If you look here, Ivan Obolensky Sr of the same address in NYC is related to Serge I Obolensky. I believe the phone number is old
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/ivan-obolensky/1334431420
Here it shows that a Serge I Obolensky used the same NYC address as the grandfather.. if indeed they are related
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/serge-obolensky/273750310
There are only 2 people by that name in the USA. One is the man you are helping.
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...y &mn=I&city=&state=&age=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=
Hope one of the numbers works and you get some assistance. Do let Serge know he has people hoping the best for him.
Mary McConnell
Purple Rain
Crusader
I told you I was trouble
Suspended animation
My heart goes out to Serge ... thank you to you and your team for caring and please don't be too surprised if his family are a disappointment because scientologists often are, especially where their families are concerned.
This story is very, very sad, please give Serge our best wishes for the future and let us know how things go if possible.
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
No idea if this any help but I though Ivan started off in London Org, he had auditing there, I think in the seventies, maybe there are family routes in the UK?
AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
mildred, I sent you two private messages with information but you may not have your notices on to receive email notices if you didn't set your settings to receive them. Please check the notifications link at the top of the forum when you log in
Smurf
Gold Meritorious SP
Ivan seems to have deleted his personal Facebook pages, but their company site is still up. Her FB page has recent articles by Ivan:
http://dynamicdoingness.com/contact-us/
https://www.facebook.com/maryjo.smithobolensky.5
Their business address is actually their home in Glendale..
http://losangeles.blockshopper.com/property/5630010060/1803_hillcrest/
Maybe, Nancy Many can assist.. Living Skills is based in Northridge (North Hollywood) where the Many's reside.
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Northridge/living-skills-foundation/45418837.aspx
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
Ivan seems to have deleted his personal Facebook pages, but their company site is still up. Her FB page has recent articles by Ivan:
http://dynamicdoingness.com/contact-us/
https://www.facebook.com/maryjo.smithobolensky.5
Their business address is actually their home in Glendale..
http://losangeles.blockshopper.com/property/5630010060/1803_hillcrest/
Maybe, Nancy Many can assist.. Living Skills is based in Northridge (North Hollywood) where the Many's reside.
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Northridge/living-skills-foundation/45418837.aspx
I remember Ivan as a young man. That pic of him really makes me feel old.
AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Smurf
Gold Meritorious SP
I PM'd that info a while back,,
I don't recall that, but cool.
Mick Wenlock
Admin Emeritus (retired)
Ivan started off being chatty and very soon disappeared on FB.
I liked Ivan when we were in but I think, like many of us, he found out when he got into the real world that we were not the Jedi Knights we hoped we were. And our performance as both parents and members of society was, well, less than spectacular. It just struck me in the few conversations I had with him on FB that he did not enjoy the experience.
I liked Ivan when we were in but I think, like many of us, he found out when he got into the real world that we were not the Jedi Knights we hoped we were. And our performance as both parents and members of society was, well, less than spectacular. It just struck me in the few conversations I had with him on FB that he did not enjoy the experience.
In present time
Gold Meritorious Patron
now i am wondering if ivan was the one with the first c/d player i ever saw.
at some point in the early 80's everyone just wanted to weasel into aola, cause it was more fun! okay, maybe not everyone, but i did... prolly that is how i was declared clear... the thetan decides, you know
Terril park
Sponsor
Jeez Mick!!!! Your performance as a parent,and your wife's is way beyond any reasonable
or unreasonable expectation. Hero and heroine!!!
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
I've been an exec, and I've tried to deal with my kids.
Dealing with teenagers is harder.
mildredpierce
New Member
Mary - this is helpful information. Please be assured that Serge is safe and warm and sleeping in a bed right now. He has people in his life who love him and God is watching out for him. more details to follow. His days of being homeless are over.
JustSheila
Crusader
You have no idea what this means to me.
My heart about skipped a beat. I've been worried about him for years.Thank you SO much. Looking forward to more details.
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