Helena Handbasket
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Like I tried to do, three years ago. Never again....you escape the church of scientology and then start your own branch of freezone.
Helena
Like I tried to do, three years ago. Never again....you escape the church of scientology and then start your own branch of freezone.
...you think DM has changed Scientology.
The only way DM is fundamentally different from LRH is LRH established the precedents that DM has built upon. LRH was a visionary in creating the program and DM is his biggest disciple. They only vary in degree.
What you said!
My thought is DM is the no1 LRH's disciple\enforcer.
LRR would be so proud and excited of all the ideal orgs , the unprecedented income it generated and the tremendous estate assets that has been built.
Some may argue that DM is doing out-tech and the opposite of LRH policies..
But we all know that LRH's policies had dictated one thing , and then the very opposite.
''That makes anyone ''on policy'' as well as ''off policy''! :confused2:
Makes one wonder what LRH would change if he walked in and could identify his favorite prayer wheel today?
This is as good as it was ever going to get folks.
Well, may be just more money in the weekly briefcase brought to him...
Ho well, perhaps a nobel prize created as a tribute to LRH , a token of gratitude for his humanitarian contribution to mankind :confused2:
Exactly! Who would ever dream of a better ideal scene (as of what it meant to be under the social pseudo-religious varnish)?
A to B...no dicking around with ARC triangle and granting beingness, flower child beatnik stuff...
fund raising, by building , renovate ang rent\sell it!)
(Put a few oil tables and gyroscopes in it, to keep getting a worldwide flow of amazed parishionners to Flap Mecca pilgrimage
( polygraphs on your\and your titites past billions years of crimes)
...you think DM has changed Scientology.
The only way DM is fundamentally different from LRH is LRH established the precedents that DM has built upon. LRH was a visionary in creating the program and DM is his biggest disciple. They only vary in degree.
Even in the "good old days", they were only the good ol' days because LRH hadn't reached a point in the program where he could implement his next level of abuse. Like very soon after he established the Sea Org and got people isolated on ships he implemented the heavy ethics policies and the RPF.
DM didn't originate the idea for the IAS donation scam. LRH started that with the Safe Environment Fund.
DM didn't start the property acquisition scam. He was LRH's point man for property acquisitions.
DM didn't start altering the Tech. LRH has altered and issued conflicting policies from the start.
If LRH really didn't want DM to take over then it wouldn't have happened. It's time to accept that DM is the most likely embodiment of LRH's vision for Scientology.
I sorta think he changed it somewhat. I know Hub created the shitty policies and had the rpf created. He was selfish and treated people horribly. The child in the chain locker is just one example.
But I think DM is even nastier. I feel like Scientology is a dungeon. Hub was the torturer. Then a new torturer comes along who has created startling innovations in the field of torture.
I sorta think he changed it somewhat. I know Hub created the shitty policies and had the rpf created. He was selfish and treated people horribly. The child in the chain locker is just one example.
But I think DM is even nastier. I feel like Scientology is a dungeon. Hub was the torturer. Then a new torturer comes along who has created startling innovations in the field of torture.
I think the romanticized ideal of Scientology has been gone since Fat Freddy, Phineas and Freewheelin' Franklin were co-auditing the grades on Temple Street.
I love the freaks brothers!!
Is it a real comic? It exists? I would love to read it!
Irayam
Yep - you can buy them on Ebay
They were not co-auditing in an album, they........
My question was: are they really co-auditing on grades? In which album? If it exists, I need it!!!
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.... were co-auditing the grades on Temple Street.
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What? Albums? They are comic books and now, it seems a CGI movie. They are not real people. This:Yes, I know. I'm a happy owner of several albums.
My question was: are they really co-auditing on grades? In which album? If it exists, I need it!!!
Irayam
is probably referring to the hippies on lines back then - ASHO was at temple during the late 60' & 70's.I think the romanticized ideal of Scientology has been gone since Fat Freddy, Phineas and Freewheelin' Franklin were co-auditing the grades on Temple Street
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Such a great thread! You are a deluded scientologist if:
It never entered your mind that paying someone 500 dollars per hour to repeatedly tell you to "Touch That Wall" is an unconscionable markup.
Especially when your SO auditor's gross pay for the entire year was also 500 dollars.
I audited staff for a while. Post duties and sessionability were the biggest stops. MimseyEven when you add in the total cost of supporting a SO member (berthing, food, etc) it's likely less than $4K/year.
One thing that struck me when I was in, was that staff were not getting audited, despite the fact that the internal cost to the organization of having more staff get audited was low. This indicated that management either (A) did not think auditing would make staff more able (and thus able to raise stats), or (B) management did not WANT staff to be more able. Either way, management was suppressive.
Today, I see that there is (C): the main thing that auditing does is make the PC more suggestible. This is fine when you want the PC to comply with handing over more money, but not so good when you want a staff member able to aggressively control public.
Even when you add in the total cost of supporting a SO member (berthing, food, etc) it's likely less than $4K/year.
One thing that struck me when I was in, was that staff were not getting audited, despite the fact that the internal cost to the organization of having more staff get audited was low. This indicated that management either (A) did not think auditing would make staff more able (and thus able to raise stats), or (B) management did not WANT staff to be more able. Either way, management was suppressive.
Today, I see that there is (C): the main thing that auditing does is make the PC more suggestible. This is fine when you want the PC to comply with handing over more money, but not so good when you want a staff member able to aggressively control public.
I love the freaks brothers!!
Is it a real comic? It exists? I would love to read it!
Irayam