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Jan Eastgate coming to Melbourne

skydog

Patron Meritorious
Lies to counter truth = cult very worried. All they need to do is cease their evil actions. That's the only real option they have.

I think you just hit the nail on the head. I am flabbergasted that they haven't figured that out yet.
 

Carmel

Crusader
I strongly suspect that Jan Eastagate will *not* come to Oz.

It's too possible that people might ask her about her obstruction of justice

Zinj
I can't believe the arrogance and ignorance which would permit her to come to Oz at this time, but then that is typical of scio "think".....In their minds they are the elite, and still above the law. Fool them!

"Perversion of the course of justice" is the label it has in this country, and there's no statute of limitations on that one....We'll see what plays out.
 

Div6

Crusader
I can't believe the arrogance and ignorance which would permit her to come to Oz at this time, but then that is typical of scio "think".....In their minds they are the elite, and still above the law. Fool them!

"Perversion of the course of justice" is the label it has in this country, and there's no statute of limitations on that one....We'll see what plays out.

The way Miscavige operates, its HER problem so SHE needs to 'handle' it.
If she gets thrown to the wolves, well hey....she was just a gnarly SP anyway....
 

AnonLover

Patron Meritorious
Just curious -- do you aussie have any type of visa/passport restrictions where somebody being investigated for possible prosecution, is asked to not leave the country and/or voluntarily give up their passport until investigation is over?
 
The way Miscavige operates, its HER problem so SHE needs to 'handle' it.
If she gets thrown to the wolves, well hey....she was just a gnarly SP anyway....

Yeah, DM's going to have to send these people into the lion's den so he doesn't have to go there himself. If they survive it will help him. If they don't, they'll make a nice little scapegoat.... Jane Kember? Mary Sue?
 

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
Yeah, DM's going to have to send these people into the lion's den so he doesn't have to go there himself. If they survive it will help him. If they don't, they'll make a nice little scapegoat.... Jane Kember? Mary Sue?

Perfect assumption.
I wouldn't be surprised if DM gives her up to the police behind her back to test the legal waters. Do the police know she's coming? Perhaps he's already told them.
 

Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
I can't believe the arrogance and ignorance which would permit her to come to Oz at this time, but then that is typical of scio "think".....In their minds they are the elite, and still above the law. Fool them!

"Perversion of the course of justice" is the label it has in this country, and there's no statute of limitations on that one....We'll see what plays out.

a) I think there's a very good chance that Jan will turn up, with a large contingent of body guards to block Process Servers.

b) I was recommending "Accessory to the crime after the fact" and equally there is no statute of limitations on paedophilia.

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AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
lrh's study tech says that students should figure things out for themselves.

Good and informative post, except I do not agree on ^^^^. I was a course supervisor for a number of years and LRH's study tech says that one must find and 'clear' all misunderstood words if what Hubbard writes does not make sense or seem right.. The reasoning behind that is one must agree with what Hubbard wrote before he can proceed and complete the course. A student cannot disagree with what Hubbard writes. He cannot think for himself.

To my regret, I enforced this indoctrination process on thousands of students.

Mary
 

OTBT

Patron Meritorious
iRony

http://www.cchrvictoria.org.au/blog/

Tuesday, April 6, 2010
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However, Eastgate said governments are being misled, as Big Pharma and Pharma-backed psychiatrists put profit before patient care. CCHR in Australia has filed numerous requests in recent years to the Therapeutic Goods Administration obtaining documents that reveal all the adverse drug reactions for psychotropic drugs reported to it. In the U.S. CCHR decoded the FDA’s Adverse Drug Data Base to produce the first consumer-friendly searchable database on psychotropic drug side effects (http://www.cchrint.org/psychdrugdangers/) that are also relevant to Australian consumers.

She said that greater awareness is needed in Australia about how the pharmaceutical-psychiatric industry covers up adverse drug reactions, especially in clinical trials, and the lengths they’ll go to protect those interests. Since 2001, psychiatric drug makers have paid out more than $5 billion to settle lawsuits filed against it over hidden drug risks and illegal marketing practices.
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
Just curious -- do you aussie have any type of visa/passport restrictions where somebody being investigated for possible prosecution, is asked to not leave the country and/or voluntarily give up their passport until investigation is over?

Yes - the police request that of the magistrate hearing the case once charges have been formally laid and the magistrate agrees or not. It then becomes mandatory that they surrender their passport for the duration
 

AnonKat

Crusader
Yes - the police request that of the magistrate hearing the case once charges have been formally laid and the magistrate agrees or not. It then becomes mandatory that they surrender their passport for the duration

CAN WE HAZ THAT PLOX ! or is police all bawww bawww can't have that.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
How ironic Jan.....

Hypocrite!

"What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core."

- Hannah Arendt
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Good and informative post, except I do not agree on ^^^^. I was a course supervisor for a number of years and LRH's study tech says that one must find and 'clear' all misunderstood words if what Hubbard writes does not make sense or seem right.. The reasoning behind that is one must agree with what Hubbard wrote before he can proceed and complete the course. A student cannot disagree with what Hubbard writes. He cannot think for himself.

To my regret, I enforced this indoctrination process on thousands of students.

That may be the way the wind blew in your neck of the woods, but Hubbard's study tech included allowing the student power of choice over the data he was studying. In other words, he should be free to reject something if he wanted to. As a sup, I never had a problem if a student didn't want to accept something Hubbard said that seemed outrageous (as long as the student didn't obviously misunderstand Hubbard's words to mean something else).

See my post at http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=422500#post422500.

Paul
 
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That may be the way the wind blew in your neck of the woods, but Hubbard's study tech included allowing the student power of choice over the data he was studying. In other words, he should be free to reject something if he wanted to. As a sup, I never had a problem if a student didn't want to accept something Hubbard said that seemed outrageous (as long as the student didn't obviously misunderstand Hubbard's words to mean something else).

I dug this up, from Hubbard's lecture EDUCATION, 25 Oct 56:

Now, it's a sure test of a teacher whether he knows his stuff or not, the number of data which he insists on everyone assimilating without question. If he insists that a great number of data be assimilated without further analysis or question in any way, shape or form, we know this boy doesn't know his business. He's scared. Somehow or another he feels that nobody must be permitted to examine these data. So he's doing something else. He's doing something else.

Now, educationally, it is absolutely necessary for the teacher to preserve the power of choice of the student over the data which he is taught. And if it is not in agreement with the experience of the student, and will not be found to be true in the environment of the student, he permits the student to examine
this and say so, and operate accordingly. Only in this wise would you have anything used or useful.


Paul

I agree, Paul.


Mark A. Baker
 

AnonKat

Crusader
WELCOME SILENTWATCHER

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Lohan2008

Gold Meritorious Patron
Crimestoppers.

http://www.crimestoppers.com.au/cs/home.jsp

Looking through the Immigration site, I couldn't see a section asking about this.

I suggest contacting crimestoppers


Just curious -- do you aussie have any type of visa/passport restrictions where somebody being investigated for possible prosecution, is asked to not leave the country and/or voluntarily give up their passport until investigation is over?
 

Lucretia

Patron with Honors
Just curious -- do you aussie have any type of visa/passport restrictions where somebody being investigated for possible prosecution, is asked to not leave the country and/or voluntarily give up their passport until investigation is over?

Jan has been in the US for ages. Is it possible she has taken up US citizenship? I have a feeling she has but I can't remember for certain.

Can Australia charge a US citizen with crimes committed before the citizenship was changed?

Would she have to be extradited from the US to face charges in Oz?
 
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