Marty Rathbun - the prick.

[Voltaire's Child]

I think you are on the fluffy side

And you have Balls of steal filming David Miscavige at his own event.

I know, right?

 

[Smilla]

Deleted because upon reflection, I thought it a bit unkind. See how sweet I am.

 

[TG1]

I think you are on the fluffy side

And you have Balls of steal filming David Miscavige at his own event.

Shit, I forgot about this, Fluffy. Yes, you have gonads of steel, steal and still!

TG1

 

[dexter gelfand]

LRH also said: "The other day I almost got run over by a train on Venus."

Yeah, I hate when that happens

Love, Dex

 

[dexter gelfand]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terril Park
LRH said that you can only get in trouble for being there and
communicating.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax!

LRH also said: "The other day I almost got run over by a train on Venus."

Maybe, just maybe individual statements should be judged on their own merit individually from one's own viewpoint, rather than purely on the strength of who is making the statements, and maybe also, there never was anyone whose every word should be accepted without inspection, or rejected without inspection.

Just my own opinion.

Love, Dex

 

[degraded being]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terril Park
LRH said that you can only get in trouble for being there and
communicating.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax!

LRH also said: "The other day I almost got run over by a train on Venus."

Maybe, just maybe individual statements should be judged on their own merit individually from one's own viewpoint, rather than purely on the strength of who is making the statements, and maybe also, there never was anyone whose every word should be accepted without inspection, or rejected without inspection.

Just my own opinion.

Love, Dex

Over the gate of concentration camps, "Work makes you free".
A good thing to think about. If you work you can earn money, gain the means of survival and freedom. So now I'll write a post somewhere and say, "The Third Reich leaders said" * work makes you free* I expect people to accept this wisdom. Yeah, right.

Also, your second statement conflicts with the first. It is precisely because we inspect anything that your cult leader says, and find it repugnant since it is part of a human trap that we do not separate it from the person who said it.

Putting your two statements together and not seeing that conflict is a very good example of cult-think.

 

[dexter gelfand]

Over the gate of concentration camps, "Work makes you free".
A good thing to think about. If you work you can earn money, gain the means of survival and freedom. So now I'll write a post somewhere and say, "The Third Reich leaders said" * work makes you free* I expect people to accept this wisdom. Yeah, right.

Also, your second statement conflicts with the first. It is precisely because we inspect anything that your cult leader says, and find it repugnant since it is part of a human trap that we do not separate it from the person who said it.

Putting your two statements together and not seeing that conflict is a very good example of cult-think.

That makes no sense whatsoever, DB. You're consistent, I'll give you that.

Love, Dex

 

[Panda Termint]

 

[Veda]

-snip-

Quote:
Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax!

LRH also said: "The other day I almost got run over by a train on Venus."

Maybe, just maybe individual statements should be judged on their own merit individually from one's own viewpoint, rather than purely on the strength of who is making the statements, and maybe also, there never was anyone whose every word should be accepted without inspection, or rejected without inspection.

-snip-

What gibberish.

Just more desperate PR damage control from Scientologists.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

LRH also said: "The other day I almost got run over by a train on Venus."

Originally Posted by dexter gelfand
Maybe, just maybe individual statements should be judged on their own merit individually from one's own viewpoint, rather than purely on the strength of who is making the statements, and maybe also, there never was anyone whose every word should be accepted without inspection, or rejected without inspection.

Maybe? MAYBE?

Okay, I'll play....

Maybe the guy saying he just came back from Venus is quite delusional. Or...

Maybe he is lying so naive people will applaud and give him money. Or...

Maybe he is a Joker & Degrader and Scientologists are his private punch line.​

 

[degraded being]

nuff said.

 

[anonomog]

Over the gate of concentration camps, "Work makes you free".
A good thing to think about. If you work you can earn money, gain the means of survival and freedom. So now I'll write a post somewhere and say, "The Third Reich leaders said" * work makes you free* I expect people to accept this wisdom. Yeah, right.

QFT

 

[rhill]

During a discussion on his latest IAS topic, John Peeler weighed in: ...

[strike]Well this particular blog post wasn't pruned, unlike many others, as seen with the latest update:
http://www.xenu-directory.net/indies-2009/[/strike]

Disregard, seems something broke for some reasons. EDIT: Duh, I hadn't noticed connection was lost during collating. Anyway, I once heard it's healthy to embarrass ourselves once in a while.

 

[anondelmundial]

As unsurprising as this all is, I think it's worthwhile to clarify something. It's not about Mike Rinder's and Marty Rathbun's 'karma', or, even their recovery or 'becoming human' again.

It's not about how delusional they still are, or whether they're still 'believers'.

....

Both are deliberately *perpetuating* the criminality and abuse of the 'Church', while attempting to posture as the 'Clean Hands' twins.

Fuck em.

Zinj

Well written! If either one had one bit of responsibility for THEIR separate crimes, each would have been in touch with, say, the FBI. Both left the kult, and not one of us knows under what kind of circumstances they left. Not one word about how much cash exchanged hands, but I think it must be substantial in both cases. Neither Rathbun nor Rinder seem to lacking cash, having fled the kult with "just their shirts".

Both are living very comfortable lives - having spent years in the kult with no outside chances of employment, etc.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Well written! If either one had one bit of responsibility for THEIR separate crimes, each would have been in touch with, say, the FBI.

A lot's happened since Zinj posted that 3 years ago that you're responding to.

Each of them along with many others has been in touch with the FBI.

And thousands of us have been in touch with the White House:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/petition-calls-scientology-investigation-white-house/

Excerpted from White House Petition:
“WHEREAS, the FBI has 300+ recent complaints of Scientology crimes and atrocities – human trafficking, forced abortions and civil rights violations, and the IRS has evidence of private inurement violations justifying INTERMEDIATE SANCTIONS, and existing evidence on hand meets RICO statutes, WE REQUEST that the White House investigate and employ a Special Prosecutor to: EXAMINE why, with such an abundance of RICO evidence of Scientology being a corrupt and criminal entity, no law enforcement agency has moved forward;

<snip>

 

[Axiom142]

Well written! If either one had one bit of responsibility for THEIR separate crimes, each would have been in touch with, say, the FBI. Both left the kult, and not one of us knows under what kind of circumstances they left. Not one word about how much cash exchanged hands, but I think it must be substantial in both cases. Neither Rathbun nor Rinder seem to lacking cash, having fled the kult with "just their shirts".

Both are living very comfortable lives - having spent years in the kult with no outside chances of employment, etc.

Try and keep up!

Both have talked about their leaving of The Cult and both have been in touch with the FBI as evidenced by numerous stories in the press, here and elsewhere.

If you are going to publically criticise someone/s then why not do some research first?

Your post is full of suppositions masquerading as fact. For example:

Both are living very comfortable lives - having spent years in the kult with no outside chances of employment, etc.

Seriously, no chance of employment? Even though both Rinder and Rathbun have talked about what they have been doing for employment?

Both left the kult, and not one of us knows under what kind of circumstances they left.

Again, supposition and untrue. I have personally spoken to both and I know that others here have as well.

And, both have commented extensively on their blogs. Perhaps you didn’t bother to read them?

Axiom142

 

[CO2]

Well written! If either one had one bit of responsibility for THEIR separate crimes, each would have been in touch with, say, the FBI. Both left the kult, and not one of us knows under what kind of circumstances they left. Not one word about how much cash exchanged hands, but I think it must be substantial in both cases. Neither Rathbun nor Rinder seem to lacking cash, having fled the kult with "just their shirts".

Both are living very comfortable lives - having spent years in the kult with no outside chances of employment, etc.

[video=youtube;k80nW6AOhTs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs[/video]

 

[Vittorio]

"Which I suppose is the reason I am about to let you go back to ESMB, WWP, and the other natter, victim boards. You guys apparently find victimhood so precious, left to your own devices we’d probably degenerate into a discussion of how one was “brainwashed” by the first Welcome to the Sea Org tape."

He forgot to say: "Put your reefer down."

I've no time for the guy. He's OK until you disagree, or push him for answer to an important question, and then he responds with a casual put-down and dismisses you. His credentials are meant to impress, but yours mean nothing to him - unless you're on his team.

Hey Marty - you spent decades running around for David Miscavige, and called him Sir.

How dumb is that?

This.

 

[Terril park]

Well written! If either one had one bit of responsibility for THEIR separate crimes, each would have been in touch with, say, the FBI. Both left the kult, and not one of us knows under what kind of circumstances they left. Not one word about how much cash exchanged hands, but I think it must be substantial in both cases. Neither Rathbun nor Rinder seem to lacking cash, having fled the kult with "just their shirts".

Both are living very comfortable lives - having spent years in the kult with no outside chances of employment, etc.

They went to the FBI and now DM is to be deposed, and most of the other alphabet organisations.

You look like CO$.