Brad | February 12, 2012 at 7:20 am | Reply
Well, my morale is up. Thanks, Marty, Mike and Debbie and her attorney, and everyone that contributed. I have been a Scientologist for 20 years and I do not want this wonderful technology to fade from the earth. I have seen it work miracles. I have a hunch that the media and many people of earth actually want the tech and they know, somewhere below their conscious level, that there is something to it. This has to be the truth because they are thetans and they got here just like the rest of us and we all knew the rules before we violated them and got crushed. Non-Scientologists won’t admit it, but even though they won’t, why are they watching? Why is there any media interest? They want Marty and his team to win so Scientology can be available to them in a safe environment. This is obvious if you have a conceptual understanding or Scientology philosophy in it’s entirety. You’re a superstar Marty and light will shine on the Earth because you helped. I know you assisted Miscavige for a while, but if you hadn’t you wouldn’t be so aware of his every move and how to combat him. Think about it.
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SS | February 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Reply
Hi Brad,
I’m not a Scientologist, nor have I ever (to my knowledge) even been acquainted with a Scientologist. However, I do follow closely this blog and other news coverage regarding the ongoing implosion of the COS. I do so because I’m appalled by the testimonies of the many who’ve suffered abuse at the hands of the COS and I believe David Miscavige is truly one of the most warped and evil human beings walking the face of the planet. I’m sickened by the control the COS, under Miscavige, tries to impose on others, I’m baffled as to how these atrocities are allowed to occur with no interference from law enforcement, and I follow because I hope to one day tune in to finally see this “man” in handcuffs.
I have immense respect for the strength many of you Independents summoned to break from and battle the COS. I believe a person should be able to worship a tap-dancing duck-billed platypus if he/she so chooses, as long as that person is not harming another. And, as evidenced by this latest episode, this community seems to have helping each other at heart…. as opposed to the preying on each other mentality within the COS. I pull for you guys.
That being said, I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you regarding the public craving the tech. I do not have a high opinion of Hubbard’s morality and I’ve read far too many accounts of suicides and psychotic breaks to ever submit my mind to the mercy of any technique he developed. There is so much negative information associated with the COS and it’s history, all available on the net. In my opinion, any sane person that might have a notion to get involved will be scared shit-less after a minimal amount of research.
I think most people are riveted because they want to see justice done. I wish there was more media coverage as that would increase pressure on law enforcement agencies to do something.
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Brad | February 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm | Reply
You know you want some. You’ll get it one day. Hang in there, baby.
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Brad | February 12, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Reply
Also, I didn’t say public are craving the tech. I said below the conscious level, that means you are not aware of it. One thing non-scientology public need is study tech. Knowing the definitions of words. It’s crucial to understanding written or spoken communication. Please re-read my post and use a dictionary to define the words that you don’t understand.
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SS | February 13, 2012 at 3:03 am | Reply
“You know you want some. You’ll get it one day. Hang in there, baby”
Ha, maybe so…. we’ll see. Like you said, I may be subconsciously wanting it.
“Craving” was a poor choice of words on my part, but I didn’t misunderstand any words in your post the first time around. I was just trying to express that the tech and any form of Scientology probably has a real uphill battle considering how it is viewed by the public at large. I think most people hear Scientology and think Tom Cruise and space aliens, but I wish more would get educated on the behavior of the COS itself and share in the outrage.
I agree that word clearing is supremely important and I’m sure the Study Tech has benefits, I know very little about it. I have, however, seen and read many accounts where kids who grew up in the church would then lament how far behind they were in certain areas when finally attending a wog school or college.
I do hope you as a group are able to continue to open the eyes of more current devotees and provide a safe harbor for those who do wish to practice Scientology.
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SKM | February 13, 2012 at 12:28 am | Reply
“I do not have a high opinion of Hubbard’s morality…”
Study his works, not the man.
Try to use some Scientology Tech.
Do a touch assist on someone you know or do some self-analysis lists on yourself.
Enjoy the results.
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SS | February 13, 2012 at 3:37 am | Reply
Hi SKM,
I did read Dianetics about ten years ago. I knew nothing about Scientology at the time and found it bizarre anyway. I wondered why I’d never heard of most of the concepts, now I know it’s because they were eschewed by the mainstream.
You said “study his works, not the man.” This is a real problem for me since we’re dealing with a supposed spiritual/religious teacher. If we’re talking music, I’ve got no problem enjoying the products of an artist who hasn’t lived by the highest moral code…… as evidenced by my love of Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, the Stones, etc……. But spiritual guidance from someone of Hubbard’s reputation is a tough sale.
But, to each his own. If it works for you, that’s all that matters…… as long as no one else is getting hurt in the process. That’s why DM must fall.
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martyrathbun09 | February 13, 2012 at 3:41 am | Reply
Your statement here, comparing Hubbard to the Stones and Zeppelin indicates you are a hypocrite: “from someone of Hubbard’s reputation”. Open your mind, or find a hate forum.
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SS | February 13, 2012 at 4:27 am | Reply
No hate here, Marty….. on the contrary much admiration. Just trying to make the point that I believe many people expect their spiritual leaders to be above reproach. I really don’t think my statement was hypocritical as I’d sure as hell never sign up for a religion shepherded by Keith Richards, although that would be good for some laughs.